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Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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It is time for me to recertify and fear of failure has me paralyzed!  Can't make myself do it!

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Susan Hinman Waldman
Practice Based Coach
Communities United Inc.
Watertown, MA
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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Review the manual and videos of examples in each domain. Give yourself enough time between each test and trust your gut on your rating. Don’t over think.

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It is time for me to recertify and fear of failure has me paralyzed!  Can't make myself do it!

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Susan Hinman Waldman
Practice Based Coach
Communities United Inc.
Watertown, MA
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​Susan,  You are not alone.  You and I got to do this so we might as well jump into it.  : o)

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Jackie White
Education Coordinator
Columbus OH
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 11:14
From: Susan Waldman
Subject: Recertification

It is time for me to recertify and fear of failure has me paralyzed!  Can't make myself do it!

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Susan Hinman Waldman
Practice Based Coach
Communities United Inc.
Watertown, MA

Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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Original Message------

​Susan,  You are not alone.  You and I got to do this so we might as well jump into it.  : o)

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Jackie White
Education Coordinator
Columbus OH
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Take your time - I have found go with your first instinct - and don't overthink it and you will do just fine.  Also, I plan to do only 2-3 tests on a day .

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Deb Henry
Elbow Lake MN
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 11:14
From: Susan Waldman
Subject: Recertification

It is time for me to recertify and fear of failure has me paralyzed!  Can't make myself do it!

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Susan Hinman Waldman
Practice Based Coach
Communities United Inc.
Watertown, MA

Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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Never underestimate the way your own nerves can sabotage your efforts.  When your program has invested in you and you are considered knowledgeable in something, the stakes can feel really high.  One video at a time...walk in between.  There is a lot of data around what physical activity can do for both your nervous system and your brain.

We are pulling for you and you are not alone!  Lots of us share this yearly angst.

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Barbara Karr-Gotz
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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Those are great tips, I also do one video at a time and get up and walk around after coding. And breath!


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Maria Becerra
CA
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 11:29
From: Barbara Karr-Gotz
Subject: Recertification

Never underestimate the way your own nerves can sabotage your efforts.  When your program has invested in you and you are considered knowledgeable in something, the stakes can feel really high.  One video at a time...walk in between.  There is a lot of data around what physical activity can do for both your nervous system and your brain.

We are pulling for you and you are not alone!  Lots of us share this yearly angst.

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Barbara Karr-Gotz

Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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This post is extremely timely for me.  I am currently preparing to start my Pre-K recertification.  I've been a certified observer on Pre-K since 2008 and each time I test, I have test anxiety! 

A few things I do to prep for the testing is to make sure I have a quiet testing area, I am not distracted by other projects, and I have reviewed the CLASS manual.

My advice to those preparing to re-certifying:

• This is an open book test, so use the CLASS manual!
• Spend some time in Chapter 2!!!
• Have confidence in the manual! All the answers to the videos are within the longer descriptive pages. 
• Classrooms don't have to be perfect to score in the high range! (See chapter 2)
• This assessment is capturing the average child's experience.
• Leave feeling and other thoughts and opinions out of coding. 
• Key words such as "no", "sometime", and "often" are not the end all for determining a range for an indicator. You may have to review all the longer description pages to determine the correct range.
• Don't forget about the definition of each dimension. The definitions are at the top of each face page and helps to refine what interactions should be captured in the dimension.
• If you are not successful on the first attempt, contact Teachstone! There are full time specialists that give one-on-one support to those struggling with testing.  They can't give you answers to test videos or assist during the testing process; however, they can review your attempt and assist with coding trend, clarification of dimension, and reflect on your own coding process.

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Lisa Criss
Senior Manager, Affiliate Training
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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Hi Sandra- 
First of all, you can totally do this!  I would imagine your nerves are getting the best of you.  I have been PreK certified for 3 years (classroom teacher for 20) and I had to take the test twice this year to pass.  Even though I took lots of time to study and prep, my first attempt was rushed, I didn't take breaks between videos and I was hungry.  I struggle with test anxiety with this thing and I just wanted it done!  I put too much confidence in the fact that I had passed several of these before and thought I was good.  It was a wake up call.   Don't let it play too much into your psyche or your confidence.   I read where a person who works FOR Teachstone had to take the test 3 times to pass!   For my 2nd attempt, I took breaks, walked, snacked, loved on my dogs ;-) and passed.  I really think our nerves play a huge part in this.  Know you're not alone and blessings on your next attempt!  You can do this ;-)

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Lea Abbey

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Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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@Sandra Marcum You already have great answers here, but I wanted to add reach out to reliabilitysupport@teachstone.com! They will follow up with you and offer specific support via email and over the phone helping break down exactly where you need to focus. It's such a great resource. Don't take the 3rd test before doing so!

You've got this! And be sure to tell us when you pass! 

These are great blogs too:

• Trainer-to-Trainer: Observer Recertification Tips 
• What Hundreds of Reliability Support Calls and Emails Have Taught Us 

​

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Liz Savage
Community Manager
Teachstone
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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I think they should change the way that you recertify. It's the anxiety that comes up throughout this thread that bothers me. We go through it in my office with all of my staff. I think it's unnecessary and I don't think that the threat of having to go through class again after the third time  it's justifiable. I would offered that if you don't pass it by the third time then you are down a longer able to conduct observations until you do pass it. Rather than having the threat of taking the class again. I also think that you should be given feedback after each video rather than waiting until the end. Just my view  after having used this tool for many years. And having watched others go through this process.

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Kathy Howell
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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@Kathy Howell

AMEN!​

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Susan Hinman Waldman
Practice Based Coach
Communities United Inc.
Watertown, MA
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-12-2018 10:37
From: Kathy Howell
Subject: Recertification

I think they should change the way that you recertify. It's the anxiety that comes up throughout this thread that bothers me. We go through it in my office with all of my staff. I think it's unnecessary and I don't think that the threat of having to go through class again after the third time  it's justifiable. I would offered that if you don't pass it by the third time then you are down a longer able to conduct observations until you do pass it. Rather than having the threat of taking the class again. I also think that you should be given feedback after each video rather than waiting until the end. Just my view  after having used this tool for many years. And having watched others go through this process.

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Kathy Howell

Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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I think they should change the way that you recertify. It's the anxiety that comes up throughout this thread that bothers me. We go through it in my office with all of my staff. I think it's unnecessary and I don't think that the threat of having to go through class again after the third time  it's justifiable. I would offered that if you don't pass it by the third time then you are down a longer able to conduct observations until you do pass it. Rather than having the threat of taking the class again. I also think that you should be given feedback after each video rather than waiting until the end. Just my view  after having used this tool for many years. And having watched others go through this process.

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Kathy Howell
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Original Message------

I think they should change the way that you recertify. It's the anxiety that comes up throughout this thread that bothers me. We go through it in my office with all of my staff. I think it's unnecessary and I don't think that the threat of having to go through class again after the third time  it's justifiable. I would offered that if you don't pass it by the third time then you are down a longer able to conduct observations until you do pass it. Rather than having the threat of taking the class again. I also think that you should be given feedback after each video rather than waiting until the end. Just my view  after having used this tool for many years. And having watched others go through this process.

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Kathy Howell
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I agree Completely with you Kathy!!! I get so anxious since you don't find out until after all 5 videos are taken, I think it would be a little less stressful if you found out the score after each video so you know where you stand. If I found out that I was over rating a domain I would be able to review that domain before taking the next test. ​
Original Message:
Sent: 11-12-2018 10:37
From: Kathy Howell
Subject: Recertification

I think they should change the way that you recertify. It's the anxiety that comes up throughout this thread that bothers me. We go through it in my office with all of my staff. I think it's unnecessary and I don't think that the threat of having to go through class again after the third time  it's justifiable. I would offered that if you don't pass it by the third time then you are down a longer able to conduct observations until you do pass it. Rather than having the threat of taking the class again. I also think that you should be given feedback after each video rather than waiting until the end. Just my view  after having used this tool for many years. And having watched others go through this process.

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Kathy Howell

Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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I absolutely agree! It is simply not logical that so many people, the majority, have such trouble re-certifying!  This would point the finger back to the test, not the testees.  I think a checklist would be better.  List the things observer should look for, if these things are being done,  rate them low, mid, high.  The problem is that not everyone will perceive exactly the same although the same class is being observed.  We perceive what we perceive.  Obviously we will not agree 100& with the 'Master Coder.' There just should not be so much trouble doing this.  My 2 cents worth...this my 2nd year.

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-12-2018 10:37
From: Kathy Howell
Subject: Recertification

I think they should change the way that you recertify. It's the anxiety that comes up throughout this thread that bothers me. We go through it in my office with all of my staff. I think it's unnecessary and I don't think that the threat of having to go through class again after the third time  it's justifiable. I would offered that if you don't pass it by the third time then you are down a longer able to conduct observations until you do pass it. Rather than having the threat of taking the class again. I also think that you should be given feedback after each video rather than waiting until the end. Just my view  after having used this tool for many years. And having watched others go through this process.

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Kathy Howell

Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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I too am having issues again! I plan on watching 1 video per day and see if that helps. Good luck to you!

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Courtney Hendrix
Crowell TX
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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I too am having issues again! I plan on watching 1 video per day and see if that helps. Good luck to you!

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Courtney Hendrix
Crowell TX
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If I'm having trouble with a particular dimension, what has helped me is to watch a practice video and watch for and score just that/those dimensions. I often have trouble with the Instructional Support domain and this strategy has really helped me.

Gina Soceanu

Quality Enhancement Specialist

Wake County Smart Start

4901 Waters Edge Drive, Suite 101 | Raleigh, NC 27606

Direct: 919-723-9294 | Office: 919-851-9550 | Fax: 919-851-9530

 

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Yes I do that class but was on able to come thank u keep me up dated by

​Hi Sandra,   I want to say it comes with experience.  The more that we do CLASS the better we will perfect it.  I'm still trying to learn the ropes of it too.  It's hard when we are only doing it yearly for different classrooms.  I figured, it's what I perceive to be right, therefore it's no real right or wrong to it; If that makes sense.  I have to do my recertification as well.  Wish me luck!

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Jackie White
Education Coordinator
Columbus OH
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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​Hi Sandra,   I want to say it comes with experience.  The more that we do CLASS the better we will perfect it.  I'm still trying to learn the ropes of it too.  It's hard when we are only doing it yearly for different classrooms.  I figured, it's what I perceive to be right, therefore it's no real right or wrong to it; If that makes sense.  I have to do my recertification as well.  Wish me luck!

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Jackie White
Education Coordinator
Columbus OH
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I had issues also and some of my co-workers. It took me three times. I am a Coach and was very frustrated with myself.

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Carol Rollins
Delray Beach FL
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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I "missed the mark" for the first time this year after having been certified for 5 years- it really shook me up!   I had to really remember to not overthink the scenarios, trust myself and my experience and what I know about CLASS and breathe! 
Relax and take as much time as you can before you retake the test, get as totally by yourself as you possibly can- try to NOT take your test at work- and I found this time, actually using headphones to increase my focus helped.  Good luck!  you've got this! 

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Julie Parmley
Education/Curriculum Manager, Coach
Baldwin County Head Start
Milledgeville GA
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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Recertification is always nerve wrecking for me. I really can't understand why we have to go through this every year for the rest of our career. However, it is what it is and has to be done. Just take your time. Don't wait until the last minute to start. Start early so you have time to stretch out completing each video. I always watch each one completely before I start taking notes. Then I rewatch it to score it. Using headphones and being in a quiet environment also helps. Good Luck.

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Barbara Greely
Bogalusa LA
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-26-2018 10:51
From: Julie Parmley
Subject: Recertification

I "missed the mark" for the first time this year after having been certified for 5 years- it really shook me up!   I had to really remember to not overthink the scenarios, trust myself and my experience and what I know about CLASS and breathe!
Relax and take as much time as you can before you retake the test, get as totally by yourself as you possibly can- try to NOT take your test at work- and I found this time, actually using headphones to increase my focus helped.  Good luck!  you've got this! 

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Julie Parmley
Education/Curriculum Manager, Coach
Baldwin County Head Start
Milledgeville GA

Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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Recertification is always nerve wrecking for me. I really can't understand why we have to go through this every year for the rest of our career. However, it is what it is and has to be done. Just take your time. Don't wait until the last minute to start. Start early so you have time to stretch out completing each video. I always watch each one completely before I start taking notes. Then I rewatch it to score it. Using headphones and being in a quiet environment also helps. Good Luck.

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Barbara Greely
Bogalusa LA
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Hi Sandra!  I see you live near me, I am in New Castle.  Curious if you ended up passing on the third try?  I only became certified this past February so it's my first time ever to recertify.  To say I'm nervous is an understatement.  I am planning to study hard during the next few weeks.  I was under the impression that the practice videos would still be at our disposal on teachstone, but mine are gone!  Do you know where we can access any practice videos?  Maybe I need to go into classrooms to practice. I should mention I am a special needs coordinator so my focus has been mostly on the evaluations, case conferences, and helping teachers assess and implement behavior management tools the past few months.  

Any other advice anyone has????

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Marietta Burks
New Castle IN
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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@Marietta Burks once you pay for your recertification you should be able to access the practice videos. I am currently working on my PreK recertification as well. I took one practice test that had the master code justification. I did pretty good, so I am moving forward with the real test :)

Have a wonderful holiday!​

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Gizelle Keys
ECE Specialist
Washington, DC
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-21-2018 10:46
From: Marietta Burks
Subject: Recertification

Hi Sandra!  I see you live near me, I am in New Castle.  Curious if you ended up passing on the third try?  I only became certified this past February so it's my first time ever to recertify.  To say I'm nervous is an understatement.  I am planning to study hard during the next few weeks.  I was under the impression that the practice videos would still be at our disposal on teachstone, but mine are gone!  Do you know where we can access any practice videos?  Maybe I need to go into classrooms to practice. I should mention I am a special needs coordinator so my focus has been mostly on the evaluations, case conferences, and helping teachers assess and implement behavior management tools the past few months.

Any other advice anyone has????

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Marietta Burks
New Castle IN

Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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@Marietta Burks once you pay for your recertification you should be able to access the practice videos. I am currently working on my PreK recertification as well. I took one practice test that had the master code justification. I did pretty good, so I am moving forward with the real test :)

Have a wonderful holiday!​

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Gizelle Keys
ECE Specialist
Washington, DC
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When I payed for my recertification I did not change the drop down from infant to PreK so now my key code will not work because I am not certified in infant. So now how do I fix that without having to pay again?
Thank you for your help

Sent from my iPad


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@Marietta Burks once you pay for your recertification you should be able to access the practice videos. I am currently working on my PreK recertification as well. I took one practice test that had the master code justification. I did pretty good, so I am moving forward with the real test :)

Have a wonderful holiday!​

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Gizelle Keys
ECE Specialist
Washington, DC
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Call customer service they're great and will help you work it out. It's the 800 number. It might take a day to get back to you but really their great. 

Kristi

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Kristine Binderup
Ukiah CA
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Original Message:
Sent: 12-27-2018 16:34
From: Jennifer Rocha
Subject: Recertification

When I payed for my recertification I did not change the drop down from infant to PreK so now my key code will not work because I am not certified in infant. So now how do I fix that without having to pay again?
Thank you for your help

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@Marietta Burks once you pay for your recertification you should be able to access the practice videos. I am currently working on my PreK recertification as well. I took one practice test that had the master code justification. I did pretty good, so I am moving forward with the real test :)

Have a wonderful holiday!​

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Gizelle Keys
ECE Specialist
Washington, DC
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Call customer service they're great and will help you work it out. It's the 800 number. It might take a day to get back to you but really their great. 

Kristi

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Kristine Binderup
Ukiah CA
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Thank u have a bless new year

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When I payed for my recertification I did not change the drop down from infant to PreK so now my key code will not work because I am not certified in infant. So now how do I fix that without having to pay again?
Thank you for your help

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Thank you all for your help

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I did the same thing.  Call them and they will change it.  I had no trouble with it.  GOOD LUCK!! 

 

Kristie Parks

NICAO  Head Start Assistant Coordinator

Education Specialist

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Mason City,  Iowa 50401

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I remember when I had to re-certify before and I just never could get it right.  It is very hard and I also believe that people perceive things differently.

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Sherry Sowards
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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I agree Sherry. I remember failing once because of a disagreement on something. I felt helpless. It is stressful and it must be costly to send us out for one day. I would think frequent calibrations should suffice if scoring requirements were added.

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I remember when I had to re-certify before and I just never could get it right.  It is very hard and I also believe that people perceive things differently.

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Sherry Sowards
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I had to learn not to second guess myself -my first gut instinct is usually correct and don't over think it.  Also, I do better when I go through the book  & read the descriptions when deciding on the score for each area instead of using the brief overview.

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Deb Henry
Elbow Lake MN
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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I have been certified in the CLASS for many years. The CLASS certification means that we are reliable.  Although I am apprehensive, I study the book and then take the practice tests. I always pass the first time. It is not how we perceive the classroom or our opinion. The last three coding items, I am a bit weak on at 80%.. I think you need some teacher experience and what it means to extend, stimulate and scaffold children's thinking and language ability.to do well on the instructional part of the test. It is difficult if you are from a more didactic background or do not understand how to ask open-ended questions and follow-up on them. I am currently trained in a new instrument called the CHILD and we just finished coding a year later for reliability. Being reliable means that you can score either up or down by one as is the CLASS. We have to use the tool as it is no matter our experiences or opinions. Just study.

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Leah Shapiro
FOREST PARK IL
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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Leah, you are the first person I have come across who passes the first time. Kudos.  Even one of the people instrumental in choosing this program for coding did not pass the first time! That speaks volumes. I still think, as do others, based on this Community, it is a perception issue as to why we do not ALL code like the 'Master Coders.'

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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Original Message:
Sent: 04-25-2019 17:44
From: Leah Shapiro
Subject: Recertification

I have been certified in the CLASS for many years. The CLASS certification means that we are reliable.  Although I am apprehensive, I study the book and then take the practice tests. I always pass the first time. It is not how we perceive the classroom or our opinion. The last three coding items, I am a bit weak on at 80%.. I think you need some teacher experience and what it means to extend, stimulate and scaffold children's thinking and language ability.to do well on the instructional part of the test. It is difficult if you are from a more didactic background or do not understand how to ask open-ended questions and follow-up on them. I am currently trained in a new instrument called the CHILD and we just finished coding a year later for reliability. Being reliable means that you can score either up or down by one as is the CLASS. We have to use the tool as it is no matter our experiences or opinions. Just study.

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Leah Shapiro
FOREST PARK IL

Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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I just completed my Reliability testing (for the 9th time).  I passed on the first try.  Some years it took 2 (or even 3) tries.  Some videos are easy to code and some are tricky.  Looking at the Behavioral Markers for each Indicator is helpful to me.  I mark each one Low-Mid-High and then see what the Dimension looks like overall.

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Sheila Dandeneau
Raleigh NC
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Original Message:
Sent: 04-26-2019 08:16
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Leah, you are the first person I have come across who passes the first time. Kudos.  Even one of the people instrumental in choosing this program for coding did not pass the first time! That speaks volumes. I still think, as do others, based on this Community, it is a perception issue as to why we do not ALL code like the 'Master Coders.'

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN

Original Message:
Sent: 04-25-2019 17:44
From: Leah Shapiro
Subject: Recertification

I have been certified in the CLASS for many years. The CLASS certification means that we are reliable.  Although I am apprehensive, I study the book and then take the practice tests. I always pass the first time. It is not how we perceive the classroom or our opinion. The last three coding items, I am a bit weak on at 80%.. I think you need some teacher experience and what it means to extend, stimulate and scaffold children's thinking and language ability.to do well on the instructional part of the test. It is difficult if you are from a more didactic background or do not understand how to ask open-ended questions and follow-up on them. I am currently trained in a new instrument called the CHILD and we just finished coding a year later for reliability. Being reliable means that you can score either up or down by one as is the CLASS. We have to use the tool as it is no matter our experiences or opinions. Just study.

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Leah Shapiro
FOREST PARK IL

Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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I have been certified in the CLASS for many years. The CLASS certification means that we are reliable.  Although I am apprehensive, I study the book and then take the practice tests. I always pass the first time. It is not how we perceive the classroom or our opinion. The last three coding items, I am a bit weak on at 80%.. I think you need some teacher experience and what it means to extend, stimulate and scaffold children's thinking and language ability.to do well on the instructional part of the test. It is difficult if you are from a more didactic background or do not understand how to ask open-ended questions and follow-up on them. I am currently trained in a new instrument called the CHILD and we just finished coding a year later for reliability. Being reliable means that you can score either up or down by one as is the CLASS. We have to use the tool as it is no matter our experiences or opinions. Just study.

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Leah Shapiro
FOREST PARK IL
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I agree Leah, I just did my certification and I passed, but I need to be conscious on my perception of IS. I am curious of the new assessment that you just got reliable, "CHILD" will you please tell me more, is this something that is from CLASS or from somewhere else. Will be waiting for more information about the CHILD assessment.

Thank You.  Gennie Clamor

 

        Gennivieve B. Clamor

         Instructional Coach

Catholic Charities Westside Head Start

         602-568-9181

           

We worry about what a child will become tomorrow, yet we forget that he is someone today.

Stacia Tauser

 

 

I also wanted to note that you should never give a perfect code for anything.  Master Coders do not.  However, I have observed many times when a perfect score IS warranted and therefore I give it.  I see this more in the Spring observations.

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-09-2018 10:47
From: Sandra Marcum
Subject: Recertification

Has anyone else had trouble re-certifying?  I am surprised that I've missed the mark on the first 2 attempts. Yes, I reviewed and even took the practice tests, although I've conducted many CLASS observations. I have concluded that this lies more in how each individual perceives the teacher(s) and classroom even though we are using the same coding method. If I don't hit the 3rd, I cannot imagine retaking the 2-1/2 day training. Anyone else?

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Sandra Marcum
Richmond IN
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